{"id":313,"date":"2010-06-24T20:06:05","date_gmt":"2010-06-24T20:06:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/carrollmyth.wordpress.com\/?p=313"},"modified":"2010-06-24T20:06:05","modified_gmt":"2010-06-24T20:06:05","slug":"your-comments-on-the-wasp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/2010\/06\/24\/your-comments-on-the-wasp\/","title":{"rendered":"Your comments on the Wasp"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>A lot of responses to the Wasp post, so\u00a0 we thought we\u2019d add a\u00a0 small follow-up looking at some of the points raised.<\/p>\n

Jack Bradshaw<\/strong> said :<\/p>\n

I do not believe it has never been scrutinized. I think I read somewhere the type had been examined and it was genuine, can anyone confirm that?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The original document has never been examined. We think a photocopy was looked at by someone qualified, who pronounced the typeface to be the same, but we\u2019re not sure how much value can be attached to that under the circs. \u00a0Back in 2003 I (KL) \u00a0talked to the now late Melvin Harris<\/a>, arch fraud-buster, who said the typeface would have to be examined under magnification for any worthwhile results. Any typeface experts out there who can confirm or refute that?<\/p>\n

Deb Caputo<\/strong> said \u2013<\/p>\n

Martin Gardner suggests that Carroll kept the galley proof because he may have wanted to do something else with it. That doesn\u2019t make much sense, why would Carroll keep something of inferior quality? One thing we do know about Carroll is that he was very pernickety about the quality of the writing or photos he produced. And why keep this galley when no others were?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Yes, this is one of the things that feels a bit \u2018off\u2019. If the rest of the Looking-Glass galleys had survived it might seem less strange. \u00a0Why just this specific portion? You\u2019d think LC would be more likely to preserve his original MS version rather than the galleys.\u00a0 But of course it\u2019d be much harder to fake a handwritten MS. From the POV of a forger the galleys, with their small amounts of handwritten corrections would be ideal.\u00a0 Which of course doesn\u2019t make them fake, but it does add to that slick of doubt.<\/p>\n

And Deb <\/strong>again-<\/p>\n

I have been reading the facsimile edition of Wasp in the Wig\u2026 Martin Gardner certainly seemed to have no shadow of a doubt about its authenticity. Something struck me as odd about the document; according to Gardner the Wasp was not a distinct chapter but occurs towards the end of chapter six, just before Alice becomes queen.
\nIf this is so why do the galley proofs only contain the apparently missing fragment without the links to the existing Looking-Glass chapter? Wouldn\u2019t there be linking sentences to show where the chapter joined with the rest of the book?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ah, interesting. Anyone know of a reason why this point isn\u2019t valid?<\/p>\n

Lastly, Hermione<\/strong>, who has written a thesis on art fraud:<\/p>\n

You mentioned \u2018Oath of a Freeman,\u2019 is it worth mentioning then that Mark Hofmann<\/a> arrived in the UK in 1973, a matter of months before the Wasp in the Wig made its first appearance?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Goodness yes. Wonderful coincidence of timing. \u00a0But he would have been too young, no?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

A lot of responses to the Wasp post, so\u00a0 we thought we\u2019d add a\u00a0 small follow-up looking at some of the points raised. Jack Bradshaw said : I do not believe it has never been scrutinized. I think I read somewhere the type had been examined and it was genuine, can anyone confirm that? The […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[12],"tags":[23,26,28,44,40],"class_list":["post-313","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-through-the-looking-glass","tag-frauds-and-fakes","tag-lewis-carroll","tag-martin-gardner","tag-through-the-looking-glass-8","tag-wasp-in-the-wig"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p17WIo-53","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/313","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=313"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/313\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=313"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=313"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/contrariwise.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=313"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}